MAG TACTICAL SYSTEMS - AR15 Lightweight Lower Receiver FDE - $219.99

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Apply coupon "DUT" for $5 Shipping over $125 - The Generation 4 Mag Tactical Systems is approximately 35% lighter than any aluminum lower receiver, yet is still constructed of a metal alloy. No plastic, carbon fiber or polymers are used in its construction. The Lower Receiver is produced from a proprietary tactical alloy and is created using a patented process. A proprietary coating process allows the alloy to have excellent corrosion characteristics.

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Category: Rifles
Caliber: .223/5.56

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the extended pin are included

the extended pin are included because they extended the mounting holes outward for more "pin to frame" contact. you could use a regular pin but defeats the main feature of this lower over others. does their modification actually make a difference. who knows. but thats why the pins are in there.

Exploding ordinance around

Exploding ordinance around magnesium.........What genius thought of this? Magnesium produces it's own oxygen when it burns and is impossible to put out. Ever heard of the Forrest fire? As in USS Forrestal? A single magnesium aircraft wheel almost burned down the entire ship. This is stupid on a scale unheard of!

If you arent going to be

If you arent going to be crawling through a fire, I dont think you have to worry. The flashpoint of Magnesium-Aluminum Alloys is over 1100*F. And its not off gassing like gasoline that will instantly start on fire if you get a spark near it.

To be honest, you really have nothing to worry about. Unless you purposely do something stupid to prove a point.

Well it is covered with

Well it is covered with DURACOTE which they say MUST be there to be part of the TWO PART system that makes it strong enough to use. I'm sold! I mean when is duracote going to get scratched or removed and leave highly corrosive and flammable magnesium exposed? Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh never happen! I'm buying three cases to shred in to makeshift explosives for when I run out of ammo.

Again, a single spark isnt

Again, a single spark isnt going to just send it up in flames. Youre thinking of gasoline. Yes magnesium is flammable, but not THAT flammable. This isnt straight Magnesium, its a magnesium aluminum alloy.

I get that, still

I get that, still STUPID!!!!!!!!!

Because the ignition of the

Because the ignition of the bullet happens inside the chamber which is part of the barrel in the upper half?

Look, I want to save a few

Look, I want to save a few ounces that your girlie arms can't handle buy building a rifle around an alloy made of flammable material covered in PAINT go right ahead, no one is stopping you ! While you are at it add a new addition to the trailer next to your kids bed room for a meth lab, I mean, it isn't actually IN the kids room so you're good to go.

The point is you are being

The point is you are being ridiculous spreading gossip that the thing will catch on fire at the slightest spark, which just wont happen. There are plenty of youtube videos of people lighting magnesium aluminum alloy on fire. It takes a while to get it going. It isnt even close to instant. Try it for yourself (just make sure you dont look directly at it, or wear a welding helmet). How in the world you think this thing is going to catch on fire without dropping it in a fire is beyond me (a kaboom of any type is way too quick to heat it up fast enough to catch fire).

I wouldn't pay that much for a lower. If someone gave it to me I would happily use it. There are some people out there worried about every ounce. For them, its probably worth the extra money.

So you wouldn't buy one but

So you wouldn't buy one but you are here defending it. That makes about as much sense as it does. I NEVER said it would explode...........My point is, that the THOUGHT PROCESS behind using MAG alloy covered in PAINT as part of ANY weapons system is STUPID! Much less trying to PROFIT from it. There's a cross section of society to cater ANYTHING too. This product meets every requirement for a 3am infomercial between shamwow and the bullet blender to really get the word out!

If it was the same price I

If it was the same price I would buy it. I wouldnt pay $200 for any lower. You are the one making a big deal out of nothing.

Tell me exactly how this is going to start on fire magically? You keep saying its a bad idea, but in no way short of holding it over a flame will this start on fire. Think about it. People shoot bullets made of lead all the time. Lead has an extremely low melting point (650*F), yet none of those bullets melt when you shoot it, and its in contact with high temperature way longer than any OOB firing or kaboom. The flash point of this alloy is over 1100*F (and possibly much higher depending on the exact ratio of aluminum and magnesium, 1100 is on the low end).

You sound like you work for some company that makes aluminum lowers and are trying to bad mouth the competition.

And you sound like you need

And you sound like you need to put the wheels back on your house and pull it to looneyville where everyone seeks out new and ridiculous ways to build items to replace the already proven items because you have Paul Ryan's 7" girlie biceps and can't handle them. Ever wonder why this isn't hard anodized like the rest of the industry? Or even Cerakoted? Because the process would DESTROY IT, because it's THAT WEAK! if you are STUPID enough to want a lower that can't hold up to a media blaster prior to coating because it will FALL APART............then I rest my case. You're an idiot.

And where are you getting

And where are you getting your facts from? You can only anodize aluminum (not aluminum alloys0. Thats why its not anodized. Do you even know what the cerakote process is? Obviously not. You bake at 250* (if you are using the bake version) Not hot enough to do anything. Who knows what the hell its coated with since they dont mention anywhere in their great marketing.

So we should never build items to replace proven items? Wow. No need for a newer car that is more efficient....why would we do that when we already have a car that works and is proven? Hell, why did we ever create the m16? The m1 worked just fine and was definitely proven. In fact, the 1903 was very proven, why did we even bother creating the m1?

I think you have proven who the idiot here is.

So you can only anodize

So you can only anodize aluminum huh?..................

Magnesium Anodizing
Superior Protection over Conventional Protection Processes

Magnesium anodizing imparts a hard anodic coating that results in a much more durable surface that better resists corrosion, abrasion, wear and heat. As a result, magnesium alloy components are often designed for use in very corrosive environments and/or where abrasion of the applied surface treatment is likely to occur.
Magnesium Anodize – A Protective Coating for Magnesium

protects the metal from attack by salt water or other corrosive environments
protects the surface from wear and abrasion
imparts good heat insulating properties
provides high electrical insulating properties to protect the metal from galvanic corrosion

Magnesium alloy components may be designed, for use in very corrosive environments and/or where abrasion of the applied surface treatment is likely to occur. The anodizing process provides superior protection in the above areas over conventional corrosion protection processes. The process provides a hard anodic coating that imparts a much more durable surface that resists corrosion, abrasion, wear and heat.

The Magnesium Anodize Process can be used to produce a thin tan colored film or the full chocolate brown colored coating. Anodize film build up beyond the initial thin film is not an even process. Development of the full coating is by outcrop formation, initially near component edges and the gradual filling of general surfaces. This method of film build up serves as a useful visual guide in determining when the treatment is complete. Dimensional increases of approximately .0015 and .003 are typical for the partial and complete coatings respectively. The actual thickness of the full anodize film is approximately double that of the measured increase due to conversion of base metal during the anodizing process.
Light Film HAE and Heavy Film HAE
Anodize Coatings

For aerospace components requiring anodized coatings for magnesium alloys, we provide light and heavy film HAE that furnishes an excellent base for paints and sealants. The light film provides protection for more than 3,000 hours when sealed with Rockhard sealants, while the heavy film protects more than 8,000 hours. These are typically used for turbine housings, pumps, inlet housings, compressor housings and more.

If you could use a computer

If you could use a computer on a 3rd grade level you would see that THEY SAY that DURACOTE is part of the 2 step process REQUIRED to make this as strong as it is, and that any warranty is VOID without it. I'm done with you dollar store prepper! Go buy a 6 pack and put them on your lego uppers for all I care.

I like how you ignore backing

I like how you ignore backing up any statement you have posted. Make a stupid point that is shot down? Ill just ignore it and move on to something else equally as stupid.

So, to prove again your misinformed, here is an article that states they can have just about any coating INCLUDING CERAKOTE applied to them: http://www.defensereview.com/mag-tactical-systems-gen-4-ultralite-ultra-...

So care to show everyone again who the idiot is? What will the snappy comeback be this time?

I didn't say that they

I didn't say that they couldn't have MORE than the stupid durakote coating GENIUS! I said that's what they CAME WITH. Read much TARD?

If you spent as much time with logical thought as you did trying to market this dumb@ss idea for a lower I might have an ounce of respect for you, but I see that "thought" itself is a new concept for you.

Go buy everyone of these you can get your hands on before they become the oxidized boat anchors they are destined to be. Or better yet, Shove a 6 pack up your @ss and spin on it,

Magnesium Corrosion In some

Magnesium Corrosion

In some environments magnesium part can be severely damaged unless galvanic couples are avoided by proper design or surface protection. Unalloyed magnesium is not extensively used for structural purposes. Consequently, the corrosion resistance of magnesium alloys is of primary concern. Two major magnesium alloy systems are available to the designer. *

The first includes alloys containing 2 to 10% Al, combined with minor additions of zinc and manganese. These alloys are widely available at moderate costs and their mechanical properties are good up to 95 to 120oC. *

The second group consists of magnesium alloyed with various elements (rare earth, zinc, thorium, silver etc) except aluminum, all containing a small but effective zirconium content that imparts a fine grain structure and thus improved mechanical properties. These alloys generally possess much better properties at elevated temperature, but their more costly alloying additions, combined with the specialized manufacturing technology required, result in significantly higher costs.

A clean, unprotected magnesium alloy surface exposed to indoor or outdoor atmospheres free from salt spray will develop a gray film that protects the metal from corrosion while causing only negligible losses in mechanical properties. Chlorides, sulfates and foreign materials that hold moisture on the surface can promote corrosion and pitting of some alloys unless the metal is protected by properly applied coatings. The surface film that ordinarily forms on magnesium alloys exposed to the atmosphere gives limited protection from further attack.

Corrosion of magnesium alloys increases with relative humidity. At 9.5% relative humidity (RH), neither pure magnesium nor any of its alloys exhibit evidence of surface corrosion after 18 months. At 30% RH, only minor corrosion may occur. At 80% RH the surface may exhibit considerable corrosion. In marine atmospheres heavily loaded with salt spray, magnesium alloys require protection for prolonged survival. Dissolved oxygen plays no major role in the corrosion of magnesium in either freshwater or saline solutions. The corrosion of magnesium alloys by pure water increases substantially with temperature.

Severe corrosion may occur in neutral solutions of salts of heavy metals, such as copper, iron and nickel. Such corrosion occurs when the heavy metal, the heavy metal basic salts or both plate out to form active cathodes on the anodic magnesium surface. Chloride solutions are corrosive because chlorides, even in small amounts, usually break down the protective film on magnesium. Fluorides form insoluble magnesium fluoride and consequently are not appreciable corrosive. Oxidizing salts, especially those containing chlorine or sulfur atoms, are more corrosive than salts that are not oxidizing. Chromates, vanadates, phosphates and many others are film forming and thus retard corrosion, except at elevated temperatures.

Magnesium is rapidly attacked by all mineral acids except hydrofluoric acid (HF) and chromic acid. Hydrofluoric acid does not attack magnesium to an appreciable extent, since it forms an insoluble, protective magnesium fluoride film on the magnesium. However pitting corrosion can develop at low acid concentrations.

Aliphatic and aromatic hydrocarbons, ketones, ethers, glycols and higher alcohols are not corrosive to magnesium and its alloys. Ethanol causes slight attack, but anhydrous methanol causes severe attack. The rate of attack in the latter is reduced by the presence of water. Pure halogenated organic compounds do not attack magnesium at ambient temperatures. At elevated temperatures or if water is present, such compounds may cause severe corrosion, particularly those compounds having acidic final products. (adapted by Internet reference 46 from ASM Metals Handbook Vol. 13)

Wow...you can copy and paste.

Wow...you can copy and paste. Nice job! BTW...dunno about corrosion of the exact formula they are using, but most of what you pasted doesn't apply. We are talking like 80% ish Aluminum, not the ~10% your pasting talks about. Give it up. If you don't like it, that's fine. But again, stop spreading lies. Im done arguing with an idiot.

Better to Remain Silent and

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

Fancy yourself Dexter do you

Fancy yourself Dexter do you ninja turtle? You can get one and use it for kindling in your dooms day scenario. What's next, uppers made of bologna for last ditch food supplies?

Holy smokes... googled the

Holy smokes... googled the Forrestal... what a disaster..

I like the idea of light

I like the idea of light weight, but I don't like that you have to use non standard trigger and hammer pins with this lower. The say they give you a set of extended pins, but what if you need to replace or want to use anti walk pins?

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